Well we are at the end of a year that will become notorious.
A year when humanity staggered from the blows of a simple virus. It is perhaps a reminder that nature always has the upper hand no matter how sophisticated our societies have become.
I guess there are plenty of historical parallels to this type of massive societal correction. Not in the same vein but I read recently about how the particularly bad 9th century weather or should I say mini climate change dealt the Carolingians numerous bad harvests damaging their always vunerable Empire. Except even if it were decisive, the roaring vikings is a much more exciting concept of Empire destruction.
Yet right now the Dark Ages have become just that – the Dark Ages as in a box with a lid on it! Right now it is the 19th Century that dominates Wargames in the mind of Norber the Wargaming Erratic.
Before we go and embark on another year there is just enough time to reflect on the fact that 2020 has proven to be rather a good year for my wargaming.
The year got going with a trip to Vapnartak, notable for the fact that it proved to be my one and only show of 2020.
Lithuanian Knights gather to charge the Teutons – figures by WillWarWeb I believe
Playing (LIVE) the Lance and Longbow Society game of Tannenberg 1410 made it all the more important as it turned out. It was my last face to face gaming of 2020.
I was into Carolingians at the time of Vapnartak.
The scary plastic soldier review horses of Carolingia!
so which soldiers marched across my painting table in 2020?
well in 2018 I had managed zero painting while in 2019 I painted and based 32 “normans in the south infantry” and 11 “normans in the south” archers.
in 2020 I managed
12 Carolingians including the man himself – comprising the much maligned (by plastic soldier review) horses which actually give my bases some nice dynamics – in my humble view
10 Anglo Norman archers
24 Normans in the South (NITS – I can’t resist an abbreviation) Cavalry
21 Ottonian foot which look very much like anglo danes or could pass for NITS foot soldiers
43 Anglo Danes were my biggest effort
A fine array of some Anglo Saxons, Anglo Danes and Ottonians
I finished the year with 4 slavs posing as Picts in my “to be” great army of Danes, Scots, Northumbrians and Norsemen which would fight Athelstan again at Brunanburh
And then the proverbial wheels came off the Dark Ages cart.
Right now the painting table has plastic Union Infantry posing as Piedmont Line Infantry along with some venerable Warrior Miniatures French Dragoons posing as – well French Dragoons. And they are metal!!!
Piedmontese in frock coats – shame about the squished stove pipe hats
I must say I had a good year with basing – finally getting a look for my mediterranean NITS – ok Normans in the South project.
Vikings aka Ottonians aka Anglo Danes aka NITS – the beauty of dark ages
In fact I have decided it will work for pretty much everything dark ages.
On the gaming front I started solo gaming with an unexpected purchase. Neil Shuck had recommended War & Conquest shortly before jumping ship with another ancients ruleset.
One of the many offspring writers/thinkers that Games Workshop brought to our wargames world.Sea peoples and desert tribes close in on Libyian bowmen
I gave it a go with my bronze age one hour wargame figures based using my hybrid impetus basing of 80mm x 60mm for 1/72 plastics. Ever awkward – probably just as well I don’t need to satisfy a live opponent. I rather liked the feel of the rules even though the play through was so limited.
And then with Covid19 lock down in full swing and some fine weather I had other distractions including lots of gardening .
I really like simple flowers with a few petalsThe colours are just fantastic
INTERMISSION
Intermission even surprised me – that was not in the plan
INTERMISSION
And of course there is always some track laying to do……………..
Eventually the dark ages gaming started in late August with numerous shieldwall rule tests – I did really enjoy them all. The biggest surprise was playing gridded wargames using Mike Smith’s Table Top Battles.
My lst shieldwall battle took place in late October and many games and rulesets later was swiftly followed by a thoroughly enjoyable game of Dux Britanniarum by Too Fat Lardies.
My vintage Garrison Vikings got a run out.
I fleshed out some campaign plans as per the rules advice and then…………nothing. I was just starting some Pictish Warriors when I read the wrong article.
On the way the renaissance troll introduced me to Faux Napoleonics for fantasy – here is my own 1970’s era Faux Fantasy Orc veering towards napoleonics?
Next minute it is baggy pants Zoaves, Spikey helms and far too much rifling. OK so it is still rather pedestrian Piedmontese – these proto Italians are quite conservative chaps – very un Napoleonic.
Will they really look like Piedmontese or just Union men on the wrong continent?
And since then two battles have been fought – one with Practical Wargaming by Charles Wesencraft and the other using 19th Century Wargames by Neil Thomas.
Whats in the container? – rescued from a dim corner of the erratic’s tardis store………Warrior Miniatures – yes they are metal and yes the brown paint was administered back around 1975!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats a long time on the paint table – 45 years ish. But probably not a record.
And so I wish you all a graceful end to the year 2020 and hope that 2021 brings you all that you hope for.
There is nothing like a Neil Thomas rule set to get you in the mood for a quick table top war game. There is something about the way he writes that certainly has me itching to get figures on the table.
And his simple rules plus some magic essence seems to work every time. You have to accept he will give you a few pronouncements and strangley use some convoluted prose in the text that usually comes before his brief rules.
Get beyond that and he offers some gems.
It is also strange that I still like the complex rulesets he rails against.
On that score I have just acquired “Field of Battle” second edition Piquet rules by Brent Oman. Definitely marmite or niche at the least.
Published in 2011 they predate Neil Thomas’ Wargaming:19th Century Europe 1815-1878 which were published in 2012.
So they are contemporary.
With some 90 pages of rules and 2.4.2 style paragraph tabulations making Field of Battle look legal you would think Neil is on to a winner with me. Well that is all to play for as I have used neither set yet.
The read throughs have not deterred me from planning to try out both as soon as I can.
I like the look of Neils’ scenarios generators and I have the benefit of happily using them in his previous rulesets of Ancient and Medieval Wargaming (AMW) as well as One Hour Wargames (OHW).
I had expected to be looking at the Italy of the mid 19th century: erring towards Garibaldi amongst others. However I really have thought again about Renaissance Trolls two Faux Napoleonic Infantry he talked around.
And Neil Thomas neatly condenses his armies of the post Napoleonic era into “monarchists” and “revolutionaries”. All smoothbore as well. And you can still show off some fancy uniforms.
So I am drifting already…………. I am thinking I can have some Napoleonic cake and make it small enough to eat and without Napoleon, Wellington or Blucher looking over my shoulder.
Some nice obscurity history wise which will better feed my “Faux post Napoleonics” even before I get to the mid century period wars that started off this escapade!
“The Supply Chain” is a bit like “hospital beds” a term overly used and missing out the crucial part – “people”. No hospital staff and well beds are useless. The same goes for all suppliers, despite the digital/AI/automation hype, people are still the crucial aspect of suppliers and the services they operate. Their work, largely hidden, is what makes our modern world go round.
Even my hobby activities rely on supply chains, as I do not make my own figures or write books I want to read for that matter.
right now I am gathering some reading material about Italy in the mid 19th Century
My supply chain for wargames has been of necessity online for about 10 years. Although when I think about it I was “online in the 1970’s because if you wanted certain figures you could not buy them at your local store.
I remember back then you could buy the “centre companies napoleonic british infantry” provided that was roughly 5 of each in advancing pose only (hinchliffe I believe) – that was all they had.
So I discovered direct postal sales long before “online” was even dreamed of. And in those days I did not go to shows either, having no means of transport. And anyway I don’t think I was even aware of them as a shopping opportunity.
I bought all my Warrior Miniatures by post in those days. and I still have a few.
So this is a big thank you to all the “people” who provide my miniatures, paints, scenery, brushes, books and the like. Either at shows (remember them) or by post (online).
In some ways nothing has changed although I seem to remember the cost of postage was truly massive to my mind back then – and I was trading in metal too.
superb service from Hannants to drive my latest project – the unification of italy…..
In alphabetical order some of my popular “suppliers” have been
Abe books – various out of print book editions
Antics online – for 1/72 plastics
Colonel Bills – for coat d’arms paints mainly at shows
Coritani (Magnetic Displays) – scenery, paint brushes mainly at shows
e Models – for 1/72 plastics
Hannants – for 1/72 plastics
Irregular Miniatures – 1/72 metallics
Lancashire Games – 1/72 metallics, scenery, rulesets
Models for Sale – for 1/72 plastics
Model Hobbies – for 1/72 plastics
Pendraken Miniatures – for mdf bases
SHQ – 1/72 metallics
Too Fat Lardies – rulesets
Warbases – for mdf bases
Wonderland Models – for 1/72 plastics and kits
World books – various out of print book editions
Tirelessly working to give their customers great service.
Currently reading this great summary of a complex story – needless to say garibaldi looms large yet the story is kaleidoscopic!
So thanks to them all for allowing me to pursue my hobby even in the midst of a global pandemic.
wishing every one a safe and secure christmas and a better year for all in 2021
Sometimes things come together in the most unexpected way.
No sooner had I read the SWA (Solo Wargamers Article) by Brian Cameron than I stumbled across the Renaissance Troll and his post about Napoleonic imaginations and painting a couple of foot soldiers with those early flashy metal helmets boasting giant “bog brush” combs!
In my last post I mentioned I had rediscovered Donald Featherstones’ Advanced Wargames Section 6 Chapter 14 Franco Prussian scenario.
And I recalled that the first time I found this book I only had Airfix Napoleonics remotely usable. And they were duly rolled out to fight the battles. Interestingly I did have Airfix ACW armies – and I probably used them as well except I never used ACW for “imaginations” warfare.
I also never had it in my head that “imaginations” worked with Napoleonics that well either. For one thing then I was consumed by the actual history – no need for imaginations gaming in that period.
my “Imaginations” gaming came from “Charge or how to play Wargames”.
The last chapter 10 – Tailpiece gives some very sensible advice on avoiding multiple period wargaming – pure madness apparently (oh dear).
It also recommends creating “Mythical Powers” (D&D in 1967!) and their armies so as to avoid arguments about uniform accuracy.
So my “imaginations” gaming has been of the tricorne variety.
Zvezda Peter the Great Russians and Swedes in the background
Back to Renaissance Troll who posted that neat little post about “a new miniatures project”. Yes those 4 simple words can either send a shiver down the spine of you average wargamer or create a frision of excitment that must be assuaged.
Yep its both – the anglo saxons have yielded to the inevitable. They now shiver in some dark corner of my wargaming tardis (yes its that bad here – I had to get some more storage options beyond 3D).
And now in the bright uplands there appear some Napoleonics……
Warrior Metals originally based for Charlie Wesencrafts Practical Wargaming now rebased for Maurice.
Well yes and no.
“Yes” I did get my game using some 1970’s retro rules (post to follow) using a few Napoleonics and “No!”
my painting table now has Strelets Union infantry on it with some
absolutely ghastly other figures on the worktable – boy do they need work.
oh dear oh dear oh dear……………..
Postscript
Renaissance Troll mentioned they were reading David Chandler. I have kept just two books on Napoleonics.
I can recommend the following books if you can track them down.
A Military History and Atlas of the Napoleonic Wars published by AMS Press Inc. It was originally published in 1964 having been compiled for the Department of Military Art and Engineering, The United States Military Academy, West Point, N.Y.
Given I have always liked maps this book or rather atlas is an absolute cracker.
The second has an introduction in my copy by David Chandler. It is an adaption by Anne S K Brown of Henry Lachouques’ “Napoleon et la Garde Imperiale”. It is entitled “The Anatomy of Glory”. It is full of glory and is both gripping and draining. The later years of 1812 to 1814 are just relentless.
Enjoy you “imaginations” gaming whatever form it takes!
I have had a spate of journals recently including two fine editions. The first, the Hobilar by the the Lance & Longbow Society. Some excellent reads here. Then there is the Arquebusier, journal of the Pike and Shot Society. Again some wonderful looking articles.
But I stopped myself – I am on an Anglo Saxon spree, yes even my current Pictish figure painting is to provide enemy forces for the Anglo Saxons. 2020 has been a fruitful year for my Anglo Saxons and probably the most concerted period project for years.
The BUT arrives…………
And then I received my “E copy” of Lone Warrior published in the USA by the Solo Wargamers Association.
I had a quick look through that and well here were some more interesting articles – not least Rob Morgans one about chessboards and wargames so to speak.
And for some reason I started to read Brian Cameron’s part 2 article on playing solo battles. It was about horse musket warfare (1750-1850 -ish as he says). Well my end period up to 1725 – Great Northern Wars just allows for my interest in the horse and musket era. So this might be interesting I thought. Just an aside of course.
For some reason Brian’s article led me to thinking about the Franco-Prussian War. And specifically page 146 in Donald Featherstones book Advanced Wargames!
I enjoyed Brians article, which being about his imaginations further stoked my thinking. Suddenly I wanted a similar game.
Oh dear – where does this support my “anglo saxons project”or much delayed “normans in the south” for that matter?
In Advanced Wargames, page 146 introduced me to the Franco Prussian war and I was captivated at the time. This was a history I just did not know about back then (1970’s), although when you think about it, it was about 100 years after the events. I better remember the American War of Independence washing through the hobby with more impact back then. Well I never did get into the period. I did mimic the ideas though, with my Airfix Naploeonics and my first metal figures from Warrior and Tradition. Many have been sold along the way yet I have kept some for nostalgic reasons and now use them in my own imaginations games right next to my tricorne wearing Great Northern War Russians and Swedes.
So what to do?
Well obviously start rereading that chapter in Advanced Wargames. You always have to go with the flow. And anyway some reading like this is like “a change is as good as a rest”.
Worringly I am already perusing some possible kepi’s and stove pipe hats on Plastic Soldier Review.
Ok so the Russians are from 1877 which is hardly 1870, 1859 or 1854 let alone 1848 which was another date I had my eye on. And in the midst of all this muskets are out and rifles are in.
I am not looking for 4KTV realism here (you can drench yourself in it and on wikipedia alone – don’t forget to donate – nothing is ever free thats worth keeping). No, I want to get back to the simple ideas in various wargames books of the 1970’s. I want some 1970’s gaming.
So it looks like I have broken my rule of nothing after 1725 nor starting another wargames project before the anglo saxons are complete.
I missed Fibonacci day the other week. I did not realise there was a day dedicated to Leonardo Pisano who first noted these beautiful numbers. Mind you it is becoming the case of which ntobale person/event does not have their dedicated day, rather undermining the original purpose I suspect.
I say these sequences are beautiful because they define numerically some our most wonderful shapes.
Evidently flower petals are a good example of nature using this sequence of numbers where the next number in the sequence is the sum of the previous two numbers in the sequence.
In episode 1 I set the scene for starting a campaign using Dux Britanniarum.
Two evenly matched small forces are all that are necessary to get started – about 40 figures per side – all infantry. Although in my case that equates to just 7 impetus elements for my Romans and 6 for my Saxons.
Then its character creation with simple Role-Playing Game style giving the forces some particular definition. And if you’re going to campaign rather than play one off battles then a narrative becomes a real benefit. Creating a story from your gaming is one very good reason to wargame campaigns.
I used these rules unaltered except for terrain set up where Mike Smith’s Table Top Battles were preferred.
Next is the campaign start rules. Career paths are provided to signpost your characters development. Quite simply they remind me of the original Levels in 1970’s D&D – each status in the path opens up more benefits and choices – for a price. And that’s where the filthy lucre comes in. You need some bright metal to progress.
The aim of the campaign is that the Saxon player ends up with their own kingdom carved out of the Roman Provinces. Meanwhile the British/Roman player simply needs to retain his kingdom and aspire to either rule it or become the great military power of the whole island itself.
The campaign is not map based. The campaign last 8 months in each year from March to October. Losses are not easily replaced so some months no conflicts may occur.
At the start of the game both sides are minor players so the battle rules can be ignored.
The book of battles does though have the crucial Raiding tables which set out what you need to do to run a raid.
You determine the forces morale based on results of the previous encounter and a random element. So, each game will be slightly different.
For my start the Saxons were on 5 + 2 = 7 while the Romans were on 5 + 3 = 8.
Pre game set up, champions and speeches are skipped as they relate to battles.
The fate cards, which drive yet more variability, are designed to give each force specific benefits. Some cards mutually benefit both sides.
The two forces are dealt a hand of five cards for the raid where two are specified and three are random. Poor shuffling meant that some awful hands were dealt at the start.
I will just show the early “hands”
Ebroin is Saxon Leader One in the small sequence deck – he might go first or sixth or even seventh behind his own missilemen. Garrison Vikings from the 1970’s dwarf the strelets impetus based figures – but somehow feel rights as they convey the “BIG man” idea within Dux Britanniarum.Saxon Poor shuffling or what! Ebroin will not get much help from this hand in his moveTiberius is Roman Leader One – its 472AD after all – still 4 years to the end of the Empire. Tiberius is actually played by a Lamming 1970’s Saxon – confused? most dark age battles were fought under dark skies with no LED lighting and everyone wore variations of grey/brown clothing anyway.Tiberius the Decurion is doing better but needs to ditch the saxon carpe diem card.
In Episode 1 I described the terrain set up. For my “Raiding a Farm or Village” the location was determined using the raiding rules in TDux.
Again fortune smiled on the Saxons.
The Saxons then threw to find out how much surprise they had. The Saxons gained two free moves before the game proper started.
I moved the Saxons and then determined the Roman arrival point. This turned out to be a congested corner of the table which impeded their progress from the start.
The Saxons would win the raid if they left the table with their loot. The scale of their win would be helped by how many men escaped as well plus how many Romans they killed.
The Romans had to stop them taking the loot to win.
I suppose I should say that I have tended to use Romans in this post rather than British or Romano British. Maybe as the campaign builds, they will morph into “Britons”.
Randomly generated terrain using Mike Smith’s Table Top Battles terrain generator meant the Saxons had easy access compared to the Romans. At least there was South ford……… upriver of the marsh. The hills punished any movement while other features impeded movement and/or inflicted “shock” on a group
Rules Digressions
Before I return to the action I have set down some of the rules which I think are notable.
A small set of cards determine the sequence for each turn. Another randomisation. For gamers who like control this is probably getting far too much. For solo play its ideal as “loss of control” is essential to make the game come alive.
A key aspect of the sequence is that controlled forces all activate before the uncontrolled. Using your leaders and their supporting nobles, command range is important. It follows that their position can improve or hinder things.
Each side has three commanders, and the leader has an initiative of 3 while his nobles have 2. That represents their ability to activate. The leader can do three discrete activations while his nobles on their turn get to do up to 2. In one full turn of the card deck the three commanders share 7 activations.
There are various constraints on these leader attributes such as when they are in the heat of the battle or how they have organised their forces. The fate hand cards allow additional activation.
Yet another variable is movement – when activated a group will throw dice to determine their movement. With 3d6 the range is 3” to a staggering 18”. There are quite a few reductions and as you have to move the full amount this can work against your force as its leader loses range control.
Forming shieldwall rightly slows you down and makes you less manoeuvrable. There are the usual terrain penalties for movement. There are some rules for the missile troops and cavalry as well as interpenetration of groups being restricted or having consequences.
Finally, units end up facing the direction they travelled and can only see the 180 degrees to their front. This informs the 4” Zone of influence which a group imposes to its front restricting any enemy entering or leaving that zone. I forgot this rule quite a few times during the heat of battle………..
Firing is straight forward with range limitations and usual “to hit” throws required.
Now we come to impact. “Shock” is what results from missile fire or hand to hand combat. Accumulated shock drives a group back and eventually breaks them. Leaders can rally groups by removing shock through activation.
In Combat once two forces contact each other dice are thrown to hit and for allocation – multiple groups fighting need to know who hit who. Effect is determined as with missile fire consulting a table where the quality of troops being hit affects the random dice outcome.
Leaders are not immune! You can lose a hero.
Shieldwalls stop initial hits and initial shocks so it is a valuable capability for the Romano British.
Unless there is a difference in shock results, the draw means the fight goes on and on for every drawn round of fighting. Only two combat rounds occur before other forces move again. So, more forces might join a combat to shake things up!
“Misplacing ones Amphora” means a group has taken twice as many shocks as there are men in the group and is broken. After uncontrolled groups have moved these broken groups move 3d6 towards any friendly table edge searching for their missing amphora………
So now we come to the force morale mentioned at the start of this post. Each group lost reduces the morale of the force, again randomly influenced by the lost groups type. Losing better quality groups does more harm as you would expect. This variable ensures that you can play the same raid over and over again even on the same terrain and the result will be different.
All this variability means the ruleset presents a vast range of different games to play before any similarity might get seen.
At the end of the game, you count various losses on another table to get a total score. Compared to the enemy score the difference gives a winner/loser combination of outcomes depending on how large the difference is.
Rules then follow for gaining reinforcements and when the next raid will happen. If the Saxon has grown on their success, then the next big step is to contest the province.
There are some tricky annual events to tackle for the Saxon leader, so it is not all one-way traffic to the top!
At 92 pages even allowing for some resource pages plus big FONT, there are lots of rules here compared to the rules I have previously tested the shieldwalls for.
I think it was worth explaining these aspects of the rules up front.
Let battle continue
Now back to the battle where Coenwulf was facing up to some fighting before he could escape with his filthy lucre. Coenwulf wished Gudwal would hurry up and find some coin to make the day worthwhile.
We left the two forces here, except the saxons had done a neat swop with Ebroin taking over the groups holding the bridge while Coenwulf led the saxon group against the sole Roman group approaching the village led by Decurion Silvanus. The green dice show the “initiative” or activiations available. Crude but effective as the action jumps around it is easy to forget who is next! The Romano British throw in a hero of the age fate card doubling the quantity of dice thrown. In the background the saxons finally turn up a hoard or rather “the only hoard”…….The Hero of the Age Silvanus was roundly beaten by Coenwulf who promptly retreats to handover the group to Gudwal who is already leaving the village with the filthy lucre. Coenwulf then recrosses the bridge to join the fight on the east bankThe terrain has taken its toll on the Romans arrival, and being strung out they have broken up into single groups. Silvanus leaves the field after being severely mauled by Coenwulf. The saxons have the advantage nowOn the Roman right flank those tricky 3d6 movements mean the saxon missile men are caught and driven from the field by Decurion TiberiusIn the centre the first round of fighting at the bridge has driven the romans back and more saxon support is arriving with the very active CoenwulfThe roman group led by Tiberius having destroyed the saxon missile men crash into the saxon left flank group of warriors led by Coenwulf.Coenwulf is with them and they hold despite Tiberius hurling missiles (no doubt picked up from those fleeing saxons) – the righthand “strong arm card yields 6 extra dice for some loss in movement.The saxons look in control as they carry off the loot in the distance, the saxons by the bridge just need to execute a fighting withdrawl……ha!
Silvanus has managed to return to the field having been carried off by his fleeing group. He now needs to extract a reluctant group of Numeri from the marsh and go to the aid of VitalinusEbroin is more than holding his own against Vitalinus who curses the mix up at the ford where his Comanipulares are paired with some reluctant Numeri. The romans are getting roughed up and attempt to rallyEbroin is still looking for a famous killBut Coenwulf is struggling to finish off TiberiusCoenwulf gets some more action thoughand promptly disengages as his loot leaves the table “literally” under the care of Gudwal – oops thats the character who lusts for his own power………….Meanwhile Ebroin is in a tricky position apparently abandoned by his leader only to find him yet again joining the frayMore moves for the Saxons – the red counter reminded me it was move 8 Coenwulf and Ebroin continue to drive back the Roman lineeventually the Romans get to move but not before the Roman levy have fled the lineNow Tiberius joins in and attacks yet another saxon group – Ebroin’s warriors – third time lucky? The orange dice denote the number of men still effective for rule purposes.no luck for the romans as they fail miserably. In the background Coenwulf and Vitalinus are toe to toe.And Vitalinus is thrown back again – his comanipularies are destroyed in the endThe saxons now actually want to be awayhaving fled to the south ford Vitalinus brings a Numeri group in a wide arc round the wood to return to the fightCoenwulf (yellow dice) having been attacked again turns to face the late arriving Silvanus (red dice) while the exhausted but victorious Ebroin (bottom left) sees an escape south open up unexpectedly. Tiberius (bottom right) hesitates.East bank saxons escapeWith Ebroin retiring south Coenwulf delivers one more mighty blow on the romans still fighting him. Tiberius looks on confused as Vitalinus appears from behind the wood. The ineffective Roman missilemen head towards the village to check out what damage has been done or rather escape the field of battleand then Coenwulf disengagesWith some sharp dice throwing the saxons head south and escape as VItalinus realises his mistake in circling the wood.
The net result of all losses on both sides was a difference of simply 1 on the raid results table – meagre pickings for Coenwulf and with heavy losses it will be 3 months before the Saxon can raid again. With moderate losses Vitalinus will take 2 months to replace his losses. He will be ready and waiting.
Mr or Mrs hedgehog you need to be under those leaves by now and like many creatures hibernating against the dark and cold unless your a lichen………………………
or a bracket fungus
Some lichen are very vibrant in the particular light of early winter and I think these berries nicely set off the green and yellow of these lichen